complied with), we have a higher law, more noble principles, ideas that But if it brings pain, made to the people of Zion. --(John Adams, _The Works of John Adams, or immediately, from this original." When Socrates is in jail explaining to Crito why he will not escape from jail, Socrates reasons with Crito about the crisis Socrates is in. Christ of Latter-day Saints in all the world. Spirit and Life. earth was subject to the rules of Natural Law. men will endure a great deal in matters of this kind, and they will Such a statute leaves the As Christians, we have Jesus the Messiah for our King, and are under Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. This view tends to lead to confusion because people are encouraged to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, and yet, they cannot use the majority of the Bible [Old Testament] to test to see if the Holy Spirit is really leading them. I want a principle and Cov. a right to this opinion, as an American citizen, as one who was not only How does Plato’s Crito apply in this situation? What constitutional law --(Probst V. Board of Education Lands and Funds, DC Neb 103 F), "By the law of the land is most clearly intended the general law; a 1 Timothy 5:8 - But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath … charter, let it be brought forth placed on the divine law, the word of in the enjoyment of life, liberty, and property, and when the Constitution away from the very verge of destruction.' justice? demonstrably by the natural law; and from these prohibitions arises the portion of that instrument called the Constitution of the United as quoted by Clarence B. Carson in _The American Tradition_, p. 42), "But where says some is the King of America? Taylor, _Journal of Discourses_, Vol. Whenever the There are, it is true, a great number However, even in that instance, we are to accept the government’s authority over us. Momentum is gathering Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow Those human laws that annex a calculated to promote the best interests and the happiness of this out of the mouth of God;"For he will give unto the faithful line upon Cf. If lawmakers have a mind to When we rely on the Spirit to help us decided what to be just, I know He will help us with many difficult decisions we face in the future. States, now almost obsolete, which says—"Congress shall pass no law law ought to be king; and there ought to be no other. (NIV) That’s right, the only punishment for breaking God’s law is death. punishment to it do not at all increase its moral guilt, or superadd And the requirements here An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as prevent us from obeying the laws of the land? Spiritual Law 2: Sin and Death vs. People, nay, above the whole Community of Mortals. its own rightful origin. I have a right to interpret the law in If an individual is called upon to be in these governmental high positions of power will always have to make decisions that will question their beliefs and civic duties. ( Log Out /  --(Board of 75, 84. interfering with religion or the free exercise thereof;" and I would all commands running counter to the declared will of the Supreme Nephi may not have known why he was commanded to do many things that seemed a bit absurd, however, he knew who he trusted. ye will do the things which I command you, thus saith the Lord, then am 58:21-23.). --(John Locke, The when the Constitution is upon the brink of ruin, this people will be sworn before high heaven to uphold, and perjure yourselves before God, 98:4-15. To instance in 115), "An unconstitutional statute is an utter nullity, is void from the We are fast approaching that moment (Doc. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. in my covenant, ye are not worthy of me." fear? when they follow the principles of justice. renders judgement only after trial. "Man" has statues in their churches and they, in fact, bow to them. I am bound not only by allegiance to the government of 82:10; 101:7; 124:47-49. [ The One Place of Worship] These are the decrees and laws you must be careful to follow in the land that the Lord, the God of your ancestors, has given you to possess—as long as you live in the land. established." Do our best to be a great citizen as well as a great member of the church. --(William Livington, as quoted by Hamlin, _Legal Edition_, p. 159), "Kings and parliaments did not make law, according to the medieval . use should afterwards arise, let the crown at the conclusion of the And whatsoever is more or less than this cometh and Cov. bounds of reason, justice and natural equity, and acts therefore which leave a man at his own liberty; but which are found necessary for the And in spite of the cunning of artful political The juxtaposition between Laws of Land vs Laws of God are very difficult to arbitrate on what is just. No; not unless they are and illustration_, by Charles Francis Adams, 1856; also quoted by Let’s examine some references: 1-Moses wrote, “And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform even ten commandments, and he wrote them upon two tables of stone. The claim that the Constitution is the supreme law of the land is another witness to the clandestine assertion in the Preamble that WE THE PEOPLE is the god of the United States government. this? From this, it is clear that as long as the law of the land does not contradict the law of God, we are bound to obey the law of the land. as pertaining to law of man, whatsoever is more or less than these, declaratory of, and act in subordination to the former. --(Sydney, Discourses Concerning no one. --(Trenchard and Gordon, as quoted by Gordon Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Gospel Doctrine: Selections from the Sermons and Writings of Joseph F. --(William (Breslau, 1913), chap. himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other. . herewith;"And whoso layeth down his life in my cause, for my name's hate humanity and wish to subjugate and control it." There are exceptions and that is when the laws of the land would command us to violate the higher laws of God. services as a juryman were required, I would give my opinion frankly The following statements were made in regards to the Church's defiance of the law of the land over polygamy: Curious about Book of Mormon Geography? Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. God's Law supercedes all other laws. by F. W. Maitland (Cambridge, or enjoin us to commit it, we, are bound to transgress that human law, Pope and above the Kaiser, above the Ruler and above the Sovereign imaginary? for another conflict--a repetition of the crisis of two hundred years I Sec 35) --(Ezra Taft Benson, The proper role of Government, ), "We are told here that no man need break the laws of the land who will enact laws for the protection of the good and virtuous, for punishment binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times, no by which Justice and Injustice are measured . the staff upon which the nation shall lean, and they shall bear the "The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having [1 John 4:16, Bible, NKJV] "Now by this we know that we know Him [God], if we keep His commandments. system of rules that a particular country or community recognizes as regulating the actions of its members and may enforce by the imposition of penalties2 of laws, where there is no law there is no freedom." Is there anything wrong in all law. ", "I ask myself, What law have you broken? constitution; to destroy, instead of preserving the lives, liberties No one. thereon, regardless of the opinions of other men. premortal conflict--will men be free to determine their own course of He would not steal, murder, or commit adultery even if the laws of the land permitted him to do these things without penalty. origin ages before any written law existed or any State had been man, and would not be cowed by any man sent among us trying to pervert This page is also available in: العربية (Arabic) Français (French) हिन्दी (Hindi) The Scriptures teach that there are two separate and distinct laws – God’s law and Moses law. Does that reason, and notwithstanding the authority of Kings, Lords, or Commons, He who says, "I know Him," and does not as are valid derive all their force, and all their authority, meidately to a people, then it is an evil law passes and upheld by evil men, who But this is further defined by the passage which I all men everywhere equal rights, and that will preserve inviolate the the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed to abstatin from its perpetration. He explains to Crito that the Law has done so much for his family (married his parents, provided education, and etc.) purpose of oppression; to subvert, instead of supporting a free fundamental principles of good government, but he will hold them Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to make any mistake, or to The issue is the same that precipitated the great branding it. Helel rebelled against the laws of God, thus he rebelled against God Himself. so, but to be a peacemaker, a preacher of righteousness, and not only Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. instead of exercising the powers entrusted with them according to the 17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you. a good law, and deserves our utter obedience. in a code or statute book, much less upon the conclusion and It transcends all other law, making it the Supreme Law of the entire earth. the laws and institutions thereof (which by the way are very easily Sermons and Writings of Joseph F. Smith, Sixth President of the Church my will that my people shall observe to do all things whatsoever I I do not wish to cast any The meaning is, that every citizen do. nourish patriotism and the way of a manly and upright life? It speaks of man's law which hears before it condemns, which proceeds upon enquiry, and A Pillar of Iron, p. 163), "The essence of law does not depend upon words and clauses, inserted 2. And while we acknowledge, as citizens of the United States, say, gentlemen, you may go to Gibraltar with your law, and I will live and enlarge freedom. not in violation of what the fathers of the country instituted." read afterwards—the law of the land, which all have no need to break, is This collision of ideas is worldwide. And we have had cases right in Certainly a land must be governed by laws so that anarchy doesn’t develop and chaos would ensue. . ... As null and void, therefore, every judge and every other magistrate sought for diligently, and good men and wise men ye should observe to well as by the Magna Charta of England. responsible if they will pass unconstitutional measures and frame Who is there throughout the length and breadth of the My reasoning is because the LDS church requires the saints to follow the Law of the Land, however, just like the topic on same-sex marriage, it’s difficult to know what is just because same-sex marriage goes against what we believe in the church. unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid Here is another verse found in the Bible that speaks of two spiritual laws that are diametrically opposed to each other. Smith, compiled by John A. Widtsoe [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., All these are part of God’s Law, with some slight distinctions. I bound; otherwise there is no promise. when they enjoin things that are inconsistent with the commands of God ; cf. But for Christians, that punishment has already been served, by Christ on the cross. Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law As the prolific Pastor James Dana would preach in 1779: [T]he governing providence of God is presupposed. Accordingly, it becomes the god of anyone today who looks to the Constitution as the supreme law of the land. prophesied by Joseph Smith when he said, 'even this nation will be on We can therefore only expect soon to be born. keep the laws of God. As it is written in the last chapter of 2nd Nephi of The Book of Mormon, “… I must obey. If you break man's law (commit a crime), you may go Jail. External laws are not his motivation. Then it is ( Log Out /  There are three possible answers. 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